Comments on: 10. Who Says http://biblemeditationshop.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/10-who-says/ Thinking into the Bible Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:58:18 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: faithcatalyst http://biblemeditationshop.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/10-who-says/#comment-395 faithcatalyst Sat, 24 May 2008 06:31:18 +0000 http://biblemeditationshop.wordpress.com/?p=74#comment-395 Thank you for your comment. In a small space may I make three comments in return. 1. I appreciate such a succinct teaching on Jesus from the Islamic viewpoint. It acts as an extremely good example for those unwise people who say that all religions are the same. You clearly show we are not. Thank you for the resource. 2. Your statements about Jesus conform to the traditional Islamic viewpoint and I would expect little else from most Moslems. Unfortunately what I feel is sad is that I have yet to find a Moslem who has seriously and with an open mind taken the trouble to carefully read through the Gospels and the rest of the New Testament to see that each of the statements you have made completely lack any credibility in the light of the records. 3. What I believe is the situation in the case of Islam is that you HAVE to take this position because of your own beliefs based on far questionable historical facts from many years later. There are many people who hold their negative views only because they already have a set of presuppositions that run contrary to the belief in God and in Jesus Christ and these presuppositions stop such people coming with an open mind and seeing the conclusions that any person with an open mind would come to on the basis of the evidence. May I recommend an old book called “Who Moved the Stone” by Frank Morison, a lawyer turned writer, who thought similarly until he researched the records and came up with a very different view. Thank you for your comment.
In a small space may I make three comments in return.

1. I appreciate such a succinct teaching on Jesus from the Islamic viewpoint. It acts as an extremely good example for those unwise people who say that all religions are the same. You clearly show we are not. Thank you for the resource.

2. Your statements about Jesus conform to the traditional Islamic viewpoint and I would expect little else from most Moslems. Unfortunately what I feel is sad is that I have yet to find a Moslem who has seriously and with an open mind taken the trouble to carefully read through the Gospels and the rest of the New Testament to see that each of the statements you have made completely lack any credibility in the light of the records.

3. What I believe is the situation in the case of Islam is that you HAVE to take this position because of your own beliefs based on far questionable historical facts from many years later. There are many people who hold their negative views only because they already have a set of presuppositions that run contrary to the belief in God and in Jesus Christ and these presuppositions stop such people coming with an open mind and seeing the conclusions that any person with an open mind would come to on the basis of the evidence. May I recommend an old book called “Who Moved the Stone” by Frank Morison, a lawyer turned writer, who thought similarly until he researched the records and came up with a very different view.

]]> By: paarsurrey http://biblemeditationshop.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/10-who-says/#comment-394 paarsurrey Fri, 23 May 2008 18:19:16 +0000 http://biblemeditationshop.wordpress.com/?p=74#comment-394 Hi The truth is that Jesus was not God; he never proclaimed as such, there are no direct quotes from him in this regards. God talked with Jesus and revealed His word on him, He chose Jesus his Messenger/Prophet/Messiah, Jesus was not a son of God. Jews did not believe that Jesus was a true Moshiach or Prophet of God and to prove that they tried to kill him by putting him on cross, Jesus became unconscious due to the injuries inflicted on him. He was delivered from cross alive and placed in a room like tomb where he was treated for the injuries. This was done secretly lest the Jews again torture him. Afterwards, he went to spread the gospel to the remaining ten tribes of the House of Israel, he died a natural death later at some point in the history. This is all truth in my opinion. Since Jesus never died on the Cross in the first place so there is no question of his resurrection or ascention to skies or heaven in the context of the incidence of crucifixion .For detailed proofs please visit my site for peaceful and charitable discussion. Thanks I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim Hi

The truth is that Jesus was not God; he never proclaimed as such, there are no direct quotes from him in this regards. God talked with Jesus and revealed His word on him, He chose Jesus his Messenger/Prophet/Messiah, Jesus was not a son of God.
Jews did not believe that Jesus was a true Moshiach or Prophet of God and to prove that they tried to kill him by putting him on cross, Jesus became unconscious due to the injuries inflicted on him. He was delivered from cross alive and placed in a room like tomb where he was treated for the injuries.
This was done secretly lest the Jews again torture him. Afterwards, he went to spread the gospel to the remaining ten tribes of the House of Israel, he died a natural death later at some point in the history. This is all truth in my opinion.

Since Jesus never died on the Cross in the first place so there is no question of his resurrection or ascention to skies or heaven in the context of the incidence of crucifixion .For detailed proofs please visit my site for peaceful and charitable discussion.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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